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I've also known of (and known, in real life) plenty of sick motherf***ers that molest their grandkids or somesuch.

And if that's the case (as could very well be in this one you describe), let the turd rot in his own hell. Hope the afterlife sucks even worse.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38SanChonino on Older ParentsTexas Wahinehttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Texas Wahine on Older ParentsSanChoninohttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384
What if he fought with the kids? What if (heaven forbid) he did something he shouldn't have with one of the kids or grandkids? Without both sides of the story to make a complete whole (and to somehow decipher the truth), I'll reserve too much of my pity.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38SanChonino on Older Parentsadnauseamhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384 Not quite sure what you're saying here Tex. Are you talking about the post or our reply?]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38adnauseam on Older ParentsTexas Wahinehttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384
WHY do none of his children have contact with him? Is it because they are all brats, or did he do something or something happened involving him that caused a rift in the family?

It is sad, but also sounds a little fishy to me.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Texas Wahine on Older Parentsadnauseamhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384 MMm. Lots of food for thought here. I'm over sixty and still have ten years of work in me. I never thought I would have but it is looking good so far. After 70 we (my wife and I ), will, hopefully, still be active. If ,however, we're not and we are senile, incontinent and a burden to our children, we'll hold hands and take a pill. What a wonderful life we've had. It will be a wonderful end.

Sounds shocking doesn't it but for two so very active people what better way of leaving this mortal coil? Why prolong a decline into a useless state?]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/171384Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38adnauseam on Older ParentsAdventure-Dudehttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003little-whip,
I would be quite interested in the date December 25th, if you would share that with me. I would like very much to read your article as well.

Thanks

She gave you a link to the article she was referring to...

If you can't see the link it's Title" the Truth about the Sun of God" under cat Religion.

Hope that helps.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Adventure-Dude on Celebrating Christmaslittle-whiphttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003
WWW Link]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38little-whip on Celebrating ChristmasTexas Wahinehttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003Are we using this Holiday Season to purchase gifts, buying lots of toys for the kids, decorateing the house, haveing family and friends over for dinner and parties and a New Years Eve gala and going into debt because this is a tradition thats been passed down through the years?

Yes.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Texas Wahine on Celebrating ChristmasAdventure-Dudehttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003I do...but I'm not telling.

~Zoo

Me too. hehe

If you are truly interested as why Dec 25th go read LW's article. Constantine I believe is a large part of this through melding of many religions.
]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Adventure-Dude on Celebrating ChristmasZoologist03http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003I'm not at all sure if anyone truly knows the exact date of the birth of Christ

I do...but I'm not telling.

~Zoo]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/170003Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Zoologist03 on Celebrating Christmaslittle-whiphttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159I neither wrote the book nor the article, I merely posted it here in my blog.

Then you should have made that clear. Try putting the word 'BY' in front of other people's work. Or better yet.."I recieved this as an email forward the other day, and wanted to share it with you. I don't KNOW who actually wrote it."

Ron Wallace: co-author of Black Wallstreet: A Lost Dream Chronicles a little-known chapter of African-American History in Oklahoma as told to Ronald E. Childs.


Where does this line indicate that you yourself did not write this article?

Besides, like any other 'direly important' email forward, a prudent person in search of the truth...(your blog subtitle is 'Word of Truth' is it not?) would take a few minutes to check it's accuracy before passing it on.

Ditto what Baker said. You really ought to take this down before Admin does it for you. It's a load of lies.

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38little-whip on The Black Holocaustbakerstreethttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159
One reason it came back to light was that people were seeking reparations for the riots.

"I neither wrote the book nor the article, I merely posted it here in my blog. Why don't you take your complaint up with the coauthor of the book Black Wallstreet, Mr. Ron Wallace. Perhaps he'll see your point."


Because you take upon yourself the statements made when you post it on your blog. If I posted Nazi propaganda on my blog, and someone complained, would it make sense for me to say "Take it up with Hitler"? No, we bear responsibility for what we post, no matter who wrote it.

Anyway, posting articles in their entirety used to be a no-no here. It's lazy and offers situations like the one above, with your blog declaring information that you don't stand by or vouch for. I wish they'd go back to enforcing the rules around here.
]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38bakerstreet on The Black Holocaustlittle-whiphttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159
In my lectures I ask people if they understand where the word "picnic" comes from. It was typical to have a picnic on a Friday evening in Oklahoma. The word was short for "pick a nigger" to lynch


So, in your lectures you spread misinformation designed to enflame further rage towards whitey for coming up with the word picnic, eh? Well dear, since you call your blog the "word of truth" let me tell YOU the truth about the word.

From snopes.com

Claim: 'Picnic' was a shortening of 'pick a nigger' and referred to an outdoor community gathering during which families ate from box lunches while a randomly-chosen black man was hanged for the diners' entertainment.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 1999]


This e-mail is being sent to you as a public service announcement and as information in the form of a little known Black History Fact. This information can also be found in the African American Archives at the Smithsonian Institute.

Although not taught in American learning institutions and literature, it is noted in most Black history professional circles and literature that the origin of the term "picnic" derives from the acts of lynching African-Americans. The word "picnic" is rooted from the whole theme of "Pick A Nigger." This is where individuals would "pic" a Black person to lynch and make this into a family gathering. There would be music and a "picnic." ("Nic" being the white acronym for "nigger.") Scenes of this were depicted in the movie "Rosewood."

We should choose to use the word "barbecue" or "outing" instead of the word "picnic."

Please forward this e-mail to all of your family and friends and let's educate our people.


Origins:

Specious etymologies seem to be all the rage of late, and this wild claim about 'picnic' fits that trend. You'll be heartened to know 'picnic' has nothing to do with lynching Blacks (or anyone else, for that matter). The e-mailed "little known fact" quoted above is a hoax. And a mean-spirited one at that, one that makes all who repeat it look incredibly foolish.

'Picnic' began life as a 17th-century French word — it wasn't even close to being an American invention. A 1692 edition of Origines de la Langue Françoise de Ménage mentions 'piquenique' as being of recent origin marks the first appearance of the word in print. As for how the French came by this new term, it was likely invented by joining the common form of the verb 'piquer' (meaning "to pick" or "peck") and a nonsense rhyming syllable coined to fit the first half of this new palate-pleaser.

The first documented appearance of the term outside the French language occurred in 1748, but it was 1800 or thereabouts before anyone can prove it made it into the English language. Even then, it still wasn't in America — it was in England.

Originally, the term described the element of individual contribution each guest was supposed to make towards the repast, as everyone who had been invited to social events styled as "picnics" was expected to turn up bearing a dish to add to the common feast. This element was picked up in other 'picnic' terms, such as 'picnic society,' which described gatherings of the intelligentsia where everyone was expected to perform or in some other way contribute to the success of the evening.

Over time, the meaning of the word shifted to emphasize an alfresco element that had crept into the evolving concept of what such gatherings were supposed to be. Nowadays one thinks of a picnic as a casual meal partaken in a pastoral setting, not as a repast enjoyed either indoors or outdoors but which was contributed to by everybody. Modern picnics can be provisioned by only one cook, and no one would think anything of it -- what matters now is the food be eaten outdoors.

By the 19th century, 'picnic' had successfully made this linguistic shift in meaning. Its history (and that of every other word in the English language) is documented in the Oxford English Dictionary, and nowhere in its lengthy OED entry is mention made of executions or blacks.

One has to wonder at the workings of the mind of someone who'd invent this spurious "pick a nigger" derivation and then set it loose on the Internet. Of course, the fact that it's spurious hasn't deterred those who are determined to find something to be offended by, as noted in this excerpt from a 2000 National Post article:

Meanwhile, things are not peachy on the campus of SUNY/Albany. The university wanted to honour baseball legend Jackie Robinson by having a picnic. But the university's equity office said this must not occur because the word "picnic" referred originally to gatherings held to lynch Blacks. In fact, as one of their own English professors (rather less committed to historical revisionism than RMC's Dr. Robinson) pointed out, the word "picnic" actually comes from a 17th-century French word that denotes a party at which everyone brings food. But Zaheer Mustafa, the equity officer, nevertheless decreed that "picnic" not be used because "the point is — the word offends." So the university decided to call it an "outing." Then, homosexual students took objection to that, and SUNY decided to publicize the event without using any noun to describe it.

There's a very real downside to spouting hoax definitions just because they push a few buttons: It makes those doing the yelling look uneducated and ineducable. Those who run with their emotions instead of using their heads end up doing the racists' work for them by making themselves appear to be foolish shadow-jumpers incapable of cracking open any random dictionary before yelling that the sky is falling. This popeyed caricature image is not something one wishes to foster if racism is to be defeated; it merely serves to reinforce the white supremacists' claim that blacks are inherently inferior. ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/143159Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38little-whip on The Black HolocaustLocamamahttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/139114 My boys are making me crazy and I keep thinking that it will all be better when they're 18. I guess not always. Hopefully he can tell his kids that they need to stand on their own two feet. What will they do when he isn't there to help anymore? If they'll have to manage then, they can manage now. It's hard to be strong when you love someone but so many take advantage of that. It's so much easier to see the problem when you don't have all the emotions involved. ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/139114http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/139114Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Locamama on Showing some tough loveAndyBakerhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135073
"We all of us believe in God as the Source of all things, but some of us cannot quite see Him as our Supply, our Support, and our Sufficiency in all things. Why, if we accept Him as the Source of all? Is it not because we do not try to prove Him as such – truly and definitely try to prove Him?

Jesus, our Master and Teacher, has told us many times and in many ways of actual promises of the Father to those that love and trust Him. But we do not believe Him or we would prove it by acting as if we believed.

This is peculiarly true in the matter of material supply. How many really – unquestionably – trust Him? How many take no thought – are not anxious – at some time or other about what they shall eat or drink, or whether they shall be clothed, realising that their Heavenly Father knows their need of these things, and as commanded are seeking first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, fully expecting all things to be added unto them?

Is it not so that instead of such expecting most earnest people go about trying to trust Him, but with so many sub-conscious doubts and fears that they actually drive the Good waiting to manifest far from them.

It resolves itself to this – and think these words over carefully: Until we learn that all that we have comes from the Father, and that God is our true Supply and Support, and we then act in that consciousness, KNOWING that as we use all in His service more and plenty will be given us for further use, we may find our present supply cut off or grow less, and we will be allowed to feel the stress of lack for a while. It is as if we must keep the stream ever flowing, and as we give out, more and more will be poured in. This law, which applies to all phases of human endeavour, is: ‘As you freely give, so will you freely receive.’

We all of us have to learn that just as we pinch and hold on to money we automatically stop its inflow to us. By learning to give or use money freely and fearlessly from a consciousness that knows that by every act of our giving we open the gate, as it were, for more to flow in, and in greater measure – for such is the actual way it does flow – naturally we not only never hesitate when our heart urges us to give, but we learn to love to give.

It is purely a matter of attaining the right consciousness – that of absolutely trusting in God as our supply. For many have discovered the law of loving giving which automatically brings its sure returns.

And you might as well know now that our loving Father is putting us through all experiences in life that seem so hard solely in order to bring us to such trust in Him. For He longs with a great longing to have us give up self, so that He can be all things to us and can do all things that He wishes to do through us and for us.

Some may say, why should any of our cherished things be taken away in order to turn us to God? Each can answer that question for oneself. Why did you not turn to Him before – really turn to Him? When you had health and money and loved ones and the desires of your heart, where and when did God come into your thoughts? Was He not then but a vague term, an abstract ideal, who stood as the fountain of all religious thought, but who actually had no real existence in your life? Yes, you accepted Him as the author of your being and that He was responsible for all things in your life. But did you really know Him?

Well, the time has now come for many when He can prepare your human mind so that it can become conscious of Him, can learn to know Him as He is, and can eventually co-operate with Him, by first letting Him use you and all that you are and have, and then giving to you those qualities of mind and soul and then those things in the material world for the purpose He intended from the beginning, for the good of many.

A tither is one who gives a tenth of his income back to God, seeking to support such phases of God's Work as enlist his heart interest. There are many notable instances of those who have attained to such faith and trust in Him that they have prospered to an almost incredible extent.

The law of giving does not pertain to money only, but is a phase of the greater law of Love, whose outer manifestation is service. And service is naturally pure giving – not only of money, which is the least that we can give in actual value, as it deals only with effects, but of spiritual help, which reaches into, heals and removes the cause.

We cannot impress too strongly upon true followers of Christ the vital importance of learning to live and work with this great Law of loving service, letting it rule in every thought, word and act. It is the basic element of discipleship and leads directly to the Kingdom

In this law is hidden the magic secret of attaining success, prosperity, health, happiness, peace and oneness with the Father. To fortify and strengthen you, read the Master’s own words regarding it all in the 6th chapter of Matthew, especially beginning with the 19th verse. Study it carefully, chiefly in order that you may see that our Father requires of us an absolute trust in Him, even exhorting us not to lay up for ourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust corrupt and where thieves break through and steal; but to lay up for ourselves treasures in Heaven. For where our treasure is, there will our heart be also.

Now try to realise that to have reached the stage of spiritual growth, where we gladly tithe (i.e. give) – materially or spiritually - we must know that we have had little to do with such growth. It was something within us that was growing, and in order to grow, some of the old confining and conflicting qualities of soul and the thoughts and ideas they engendered had to be loosened from our consciousness and left behind – that such was part of the cleansing process. And if such loosing and freeing hurt, which is natural, we should be glad, and should at once seek to learn why it hurt – and the quality of self that we being hurt was refusing to let go and was thus holding us back from the goal that awaits.

Keeping in mind the unconscious growth within taking place, we can then see that if health departed, or financial reverses came, or some loved one was taken away, or one of the cherished desires of our hearts was suddenly removed, that it was necessary to bring such about first in order to awaken the soul, and then when that was accomplished the mind’s attention could be turned to God, the Giver of all things.

We know that God, like an expert husbandman, when a branch does not blossom or bear any fruit, cuts it off, takes it away and burns it. On the other hand every branch that produces fruit such a husbandman trims close, lets it bleed, and thus purges it, in order that it may draw to itself the special renewing force of the life in the vine, which makes it grow more freely and thereby bring forth fruit more abundantly.

Christ is the conscious partaker and producer of the fruit of God’s love – is the Vine whose roots are in God – and ever seeks to produce through His people, the branches, but cannot until the branches recognise their identity with the Vine, and thus abide in Its life and lets Its life abide in and flow freely through them. Only then can that life blossom and bring forth its fruit plentifully.


“I am the vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine, no more can ye, except ye abide in me. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit. ... These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.”]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135073http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135073Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38AndyBaker on Tithing !!!MasonMhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/137075http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/137075http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/137075Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38MasonM on Justified or HomicideKdGergohttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753Sad part is that Black people assist to their own abuse by the Democrats.
Unawareness of their own interests? Maybe.
I think your example reflects the creeping wrongness of our reality. Will be there a wake up from this bad dream? I hope so.


]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38KdGergo on The Black Vote in MarylandParaTed2khttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753One of the saddest situations in our country is that fact that so many Black Americans seem more interested in maintaining the "plantation" mentality than helping each other out of it.

I agree with Adnauseum, there are some great roll models for young Black people to follow, if they are willing to go against the idea that they shouldn't want more.

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38ParaTed2k on The Black Vote in Marylandadnauseamhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753 What can I say? Try to keep positive by knowing that Colin Powell and Condi Rice reached the highest offices in the land and they are revered by black people all over the World.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135753Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38adnauseam on The Black Vote in MarylandKFC Kickin For Christhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907As for me...I tend to my own business before I try to change society. I'll help people in time of need, but trying to change people is not what I do...

This is excellent!! To change society we work on ourselves and teach by example. It's the best way.

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38KFC Kickin For Christ on Inheriting the Kingdom of GOD !Zoologist03http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135073 

~Zoo]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135073http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135073Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Zoologist03 on Tithing !!!Zoologist03http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907He's an "ordained minister", after all . . .

I'm an ordained minister...www.ulc.org, baby.


As for me...I tend to my own business before I try to change society. I'll help people in time of need, but trying to change people is not what I do...

~Zoo]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Zoologist03 on Inheriting the Kingdom of GOD !SanChoninohttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072occure

Another spelling error

invoulvement


Another

geatful


Another. "Can I get a wit-NESS!"

religiose


Another. This is starting to get embarrasing.

  ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38SanChonino on These Things Must Come to PassSanChoninohttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072Fer-ver-ent-y? Is this a cross between feverishly and fervently? Or is it some weird new-age technique? Do tell!

Oh, and it's 'owt' not 'ought.' (hehehe)

This blogger isn't famous for his actually cogent articles, my fine ladyfriends . . . but they sure are great to poke fun at. just wait until "Sons of Thunder" (hear the trumpet music with that name, do-do-do-DOOOO!) comes back with a "scathing rebuttal" to your remarks . . . ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38SanChonino on These Things Must Come to Passlittle-whiphttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072We as christians ought to be praying ferverenty

Fer-ver-ent-y? Is this a cross between feverishly and fervently? Or is it some weird new-age technique? Do tell!

Oh, and it's 'owt' not 'ought.'   (hehehe)]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38little-whip on These Things Must Come to Passlittle-whiphttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072
Send me all your money since you won't be needing it after that.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38little-whip on These Things Must Come to Passdharmagrlhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072Didn't you post this same article a while ago?  You did, I'm sure of it.

 

Once again, it's 'come to PASS' not 'past'.  And, once again, people have been saying the exact same thing for aeons.  It aint happened yet, and I seriously doubt that it's happening now.

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/135072Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38dharmagrl on These Things Must Come to PassSanChoninohttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907My... aren't we just indignant. If I were you, I'd be much more concerned about sin in my own life before I'd concern myself with what others said or did. And why are you interesting yourself in what goes on in the bedrooms of others? Does the thought of what they might be doing excite you?

Don't even try to reason with this toerag, Simon. He's an "ordained minister", after all . . . (more like Supreme Commander Dipstick)

And by the way, supposed son of thunder, better get that beam out before you start worrying about the motes in the other's eyes. When you're perfect, you can go ahead and worry yourself with the salvation of others.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38SanChonino on Inheriting the Kingdom of GOD !KFC Kickin For Christhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907This truly surprises me as it's totaly contrary to Cotholic doctrine.

this doesn't really surprise me. There are churches out there that are renegade churches. They are operating outside of the governing body...basically doing their own thing regardless of what's coming down from the top.

Think about this. Birth control is a no no from the top in the CC but you know as well as I that your fellow Catholics are not abiding by this. So what's the difference if it's done individaully or corporately?

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38KFC Kickin For Christ on Inheriting the Kingdom of GOD !KFC Kickin For Christhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907My... aren't we just indignant. If I were you, I'd be much more concerned about sin in my own life before I'd concern myself with what others said or did

well do you hold this view when it comes to other things, such as politics, educators, your neighbor's etc? Why is it when one brings up the word of God and what it says, all of a sudden it's taboo to speak? Why such hostility? Not PC?

Why is this statement and viewpoint made on this blog any different than any other subject on another's blog? Do you paint all with the same brush?

And to answer your questions SOT...the truth is we are apathetic. When there is apathy in the pew and apostosy in the pulpit, it's no longer a church governed by God...but you said it...it's governed by man.



]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38KFC Kickin For Christ on Inheriting the Kingdom of GOD !EmperorofIceCreamhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907 My... aren't we just indignant. If I were you, I'd be much more concerned about sin in my own life before I'd concern myself with what others said or did. And why are you interesting yourself in what goes on in the bedrooms of others? Does the thought of what they might be doing excite you?]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38EmperorofIceCream on Inheriting the Kingdom of GOD !Xythehttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907
I've enen found and entire gay Catholic Church, priest and all.


This truly surprises me as it's totaly contrary to Cotholic doctrine.

I need to see this one to believe it. What is the name of this so called Catholic church, and where does it reside?]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134907Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Xythe on Inheriting the Kingdom of GOD !KFC Kickin For Christhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134819
I kind of look at it like a substitute teacher. Elsewhere in scripture I think in Col and Hebrews it talks about the law being the shadow with the body or substance being Christ, the owner of that shadow.

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134819http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/134819Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38KFC Kickin For Christ on The LawCandyRosehttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649 Let's be professional while addressing the different topics and enjoy this avenue which allows us all to express ourselves. Those that are on one accord with God and believe in HIS HOLY WORD are covered under the blood of JESUS CHRIST. There is no greater love than what HE expressed to a dying world when HE hung bled and died on Calvary, stayed dead for 3 days and rose again. Let's make an effort to obey HIS commandment and love ye one another for HE loves us all and wants us to fellowship and learn more of HIM.

Try the spirit by the spirit. God is real! Seek HIM while HE may yet be found. ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38CandyRose on Wisdom shared with the believer.pseudosoldierhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460
However, take a close look at your original scripture quote; the sin cited there is the remarriage. Make of that what you will, but it seems to me that you could divorce and remain companionless and be okay.

I'm not sure I'm entirely okay with this, and it's something I think about a fair bit. Thankfully (?), I'm not ready for another relationship yet anyway, so I don't have to wrestle with this particular moral issue. Yet.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38pseudosoldier on Can I get a divorce ?pureintentionshttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460 I am very sorry to hear about your situation. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Praise God, that you do have a caring Pastor and landlady.

As for divorce, as we all know, it is mention many times in the Bible, that unless adultery is committed, divorce should not take place. It is mentioned on many occasions through the Bible.


Deut- 24:1
Mal- 2:16
Matt- 19:03
19:07
19:08
19:09
5:31
1:19

But if you would, read I Corithians chapter 7, it too speaks of marriage. ( Please look at I Cor 7:10 if nothing else, but the whole chapter is worth reading )


I pray that all will work out for you and that you may find peace in your heart. I can't imagine how hard this experience has been for you. God Bless.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38pureintentions on Can I get a divorce ?Ionolasthttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Ionolast on Wisdom shared with the believer.Ionolasthttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649
Haven't you ever heard that one's religious beliefs should be kept private?

All you're doing now is showing what's on the other side of your privates.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Ionolast on Wisdom shared with the believer.Son of Thunderhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649
I don't expect you to believe that Candy/Orion and I are not one in the same, however what that shows me is that you have little believe or faith in the Living God and his word. Candy/Orion and I simple share the same ideas and beliefs as born again christians and speak the samethings because we'er on one accord.

You question my ordination and by whom, well let me advise you that I was indeed ordained by God when I was called into the ministry. I happen to have three sets of licenses and was proplrly ordained after having successfully passed the board before several churches gathered together to witness the event. Where you ask? In the city of Baltimore in the state of maryland in the year of 1991 by The New Covenant Apostolic Faith Church and Association, which happens to have come out of Bible Way Apostolic Church which was founded by the late Bishop Smallwood E. Williams in Washington DC. Hands were laid on me by seven ministers and I was charged to preach the Gospel as according to 2Tim. 4:1-5, and before God and the all the saints assembled. All ordained Ministers, Deacons and Missionaries are charged the same way in Apostolic ordinations. Thats how it worked for me.

My papers are accepted in all 50 states and the Distric of Columbia. Many are called but few are choosen, I was called and choosen to handle the Word of God reguardless of your belief in my ordination or not. Needless to say I will continue to do so here or anywhere else because I take my calling seriously. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, and I do that. Try it, you might like it.

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Son of Thunder on Wisdom shared with the believer.SanChoninohttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649As an ordained man of God I have the right to teach and preach the gospel, and share the Wisdom GOD has given me with others reguardless of your assumption.

Ordained by who, where, and how? And don't tell me that "the Lord ordained you himself". He come and put his own hands on your head to give you this "ordination"?

Barring Tova you're all the same person aren't you? The writing style is the same anyway. So why bother addressing Sons/Candy/Orions by name?


Probably! That's pretty messed up, Son of Thunder, Son of Zebedee, Mr. holier-than-thou or whatever the crap your name was. Codify your "calling" by telling us where your authority comes from.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127649Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38SanChonino on Wisdom shared with the believer.KFC Kickin For Christhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460
In Proverbs it says not to abandon the wife of your youth. Do you think that's true and for what reason does it advise that?

Also was there any accountability on the part of this 16 year old? Was she called in for assault? If not, why not? She sounds dangerous.

I'm glad your pastor and kind landlady helped you. Has he ever intervened with marriage counseling in the past before it got this bad?

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38KFC Kickin For Christ on Can I get a divorce ?Sons of Thunderhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460
I got myself together and drove top the hospital and sat there for 7 hours before being seen only to be given a bottle pain pills and sent home and told to keep ice on the knee. This was on thursday by Sunday it was good and swoolen and hurting. I returned to the hospital and was immeadiately admitted with kidney failure, hypertention and a high sugar level plus a torn quad muscle. I underwent surgery and was released by that friday. My wife accompanied me to my residence telling me she would nurse me back to health. She also told this to my landlord and several friends, however this was not the case. I had meds in the form of injections I needed to keep vains from collapsing every 6 hours after surgery to keep infection from setting in. I still have the unopened box to this day.

As I lay helpless on my back in bed unable to even use the restroom because of the cast on my leg from ankle to crotch my wife stayed the first week. In the begining of the second week she asked to borrow several hundred dollars to move to a new apartment and she would pay it back to me. I thought nothing of it, she was my wife and she knew this was my rent money and car note. To this day I've not seen her or heard from her. It it hadn't of been for my landlady and my Pastor I'd have starved to death. That was her second time leaving me. Guess I should have known better, but love is blind sometimes isn't it ?

Time for a divorce I think. Well if it isn't its in the works. I think I've earned it.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Sons of Thunder on Can I get a divorce ?Sons of Thunderhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769
Its tough being a (pk) Preachers Kid because so much is expected of you or back in the day it was. People expected you to conduct yourself a certain way and had great expectations of you because of your parents. I'm from the old school you might say, born in the early forties and a baby boomer. Of course my parents expected as much from me also, and its tough being made to go to a place (the church) where you really don't want to go in the first place. But growing up as I did in a strict christian family with values and morals and christian teaching I was forced to go the house of worship from birth up to age 17 when I joined the US Army and started my as I thought adult life leaving the demands of church and parents as I thought behind. The same principles I thought I'd left behind I found in the military far from home and a bunch of people to enforce them.

I returned home from the military without hurt or harm coming to me, however by the time I was 20 years old I'd had numerous sexual encounters with much older women then myself, many married, single, divorced, widowed, I didn't care. I knew better because I'd been taught better, but I was rebellious against my parents and the church. I was going to do it my way and did for many years until a change occured in my life. God found me and made me a changed person, and I became born again.

You see sex almost costs me my life several times, being in the wrong place at the wrong time, being with the wrong person in the wrong place. Trying to be a know it all at a young age was fun but highly stupid on my part. Been there, done that and as I look back over my life, I see where God kept this fool out of trouble and alive. Been through three (3) marriages that didn't work so I've learn to be content in whatever state I find myself. Loneliness isn't so bad, I've been alone most of my life. I find it hard to love after so many affairs, the trust is betrayed and the heart is broken over and over. As I grow older each year I keep saying to myself maybe this is the year of change in my life! These are just my comments on the subject. Thanks you for yours.

I was guilty as hell, but I repented and asked God's forgiveness and I feel better. But thats just and my comments. ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Sons of Thunder on Sex Before Marriage !Tova7http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769
when you have already used your three seconds to get to know me?

That's just it.  I'm not trying to "impart wisdom to the unenlightened" therefore I don't need to get to know you, unless I so choose.

You will have to forgive me if you are indeed not SOT.  I was responding more to the articles with his name on them then to yours as much.

But you do come off like a jehovah witness...not the message but the delivery.  The "I don't know you but you need this info..." before ever even checking to see if its already out there, and PERHAPS you are preachin to the choir.

It smacks of pride imo. 

And 3 seconds was the time I believed it would take you to click on someone's blog to get to know them.  If you are such a wise ass....well, you might need to brush up or you'd have picked up on that.

]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Tova7 on Sex Before Marriage !Orionsbelt77http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769 Question of the Day.
I have never stated that I did not have sex before I was married. I did.....a whole bunch of times. As many times as I could and that probably wasn't enough. Many things could have happened that would have made a mess of my life, and fortunately for me, none occurred. That cannot be said for the millions of unwed births. Children without fathers, growing up in poverty only to repeat the cycle ad infinitum.

You are in charge of yourself? Welcome to the in charge of ourselves club! We, each and every one of us is in charge of ourselves whether we believe in God or not. Back when I was having all that sex without marriage, I was a genuine bonafide atheist.....yup, hard to believe perhaps, but nonetheless true.

Very few of the writers of the Bible were infallible. When closely examining their lifestyles, one cannot help but wonder what God was thinking when He chose them to do what He would have them do. To get a down to earth everyday glimpse of just how little man has changed in our thinking and behavior, I recommend reading Eccleisiastes. It is written for the man who lives under the sun (which is all of us). Its an easy read, and requires no belief in anything other than a belief in common sense.

Question. How is it that you wonder what spiritual damage may have occurred by your behavior, when you do not believe in God?
No God, no spirit, for the only place one could gain knowledge of spirit in the first place is through His word.

One thing I know of first hand is that to believe that there is no God takes a greater level of faith, than it does to believe upon Him.

Take Care.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/127769Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Orionsbelt77 on Sex Before Marriage !Orionsbelt77http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238Now as to verbiage and such, you of all people, given your great wisdom and discernment, should easily be able to tell me and sons apart.
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here.

Oh, by the way, where the heck is my blue?]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Orionsbelt77 on Christ Crucified !little-whiphttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238
Heh, not even close. Not in any sense of the word. ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38little-whip on Christ Crucified !Gideon MacLeishhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238 Why Gideon, I always use blue in the text, so you will always know it is me, that, and my spelling is better..

Gasp! You're right! With the blue font, you couldn't POSSIBLY be the same person.

Actually, Tova's and my writings are pretty distinctively different. Our styles, our sentence structures, choices of verbiage, etc. Anyone whose read our materials regularly would notice we're not one and the same. You lose on that count.]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128238Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38Gideon MacLeish on Christ Crucified !KFC Kickin For Christhttp://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460
And it also says in scripture that if you break one command you are guilty of breaking them all. The commandments cannot be kept perfectly no matter how hard we try. That's why the need for the savior. The laws were but a shadow, Christ IS the body, the real thing. The laws pointed to Him just like any shadow points to the one responsible for it.

I look at the commandments like a door frame with a window that is divided into small sections of windows. If you break one portion or one section you've broken the whole window because you have to replace the whole thing.

God hates divorce. We know that. We should do everything in our power to stay put in our marriages, barring abuse or adultery. Divorce does not bring glory to God and for the Christian that is the whole reason for our existence. But if the other partner wants out, let him/her go. You will not be held accountable. ]]>http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460http://asonofzebedee.joeuser.com/article/128460Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:29:38 -04002008-07-23T19:29:38KFC Kickin For Christ on Can I get a divorce ?